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Journey VII • Gate III

The Nations &
The Divine Council

Comparisons, Connections & What If?

The Rule of the Gate

"Interesting is not the same as proven."

Everything is on the table. We explore the Bible alongside extra-biblical texts, history, mythology, and the unseen realm. We ask bold "What if?" questions. But we do not elevate these theories to the level of canonical truth.

What If The Stories Are Connected?

We have now walked through two different worlds.

Gate I — Scripture

  • Babel.
  • The division of the nations.
  • The sons of God.
  • The Divine Council.
  • The gods judged in Psalm 82.
  • The Prince of Persia.
  • The Prince of Greece.
  • Michael and Israel.
  • Christ above every rule and authority.

Gate II — Ancient Texts

  • Mesopotamia.
  • Canaan.
  • Egypt.
  • Persia.
  • Greece.
  • Rome.
  • The northern world.

Different civilizations. Different languages. Different gods. Different stories.

And yet certain patterns appear again and again.

So now we do what this third Gate was created to do:

We place the pieces beside one another.

Not to force them together. Not to call speculation fact. But to ask whether connections may exist.

Connection I — Babel and the Nations

Genesis describes humanity gathered together at Babel.

One people. One language. One place.

Then God intervenes. Languages are confused. Humanity is scattered. The nations emerge across the earth.

Deuteronomy 32 later looks backward toward a time when:

“the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance.”

And an important ancient textual tradition continues:

“according to the number of the sons of God.”

Then comes the contrast:

“But the LORD's portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage.”
— Deuteronomy 32:8–9

If the ancient reading is correct, something extraordinary may be visible behind the earthly division.

The nations were not merely separated by: language, land, borders, and ancestry.

There may also have been a heavenly dimension to their division.

And Israel occupied a unique position. Israel was YHWH's portion.

Connection II — The Gods of the Nations

Now place that picture beside the ancient world.

Babylon had Marduk. Canaan had Baal and other divine powers. Egypt had Ra, Osiris, Isis, Horus and many others. Greece remembered Zeus and the Olympians. Rome knew Jupiter, Minerva, Mars and others. The Germanic and Norse worlds remembered Odin, Thor, Tyr and their fellow gods.

Different cultures associated divine beings with: lands, cities, peoples, kings, war, wisdom, fertility, storms, the sea, the heavens, and the underworld.

The historical fact is simple: The nations worshipped many gods.

But Gate III asks a more dangerous question.

What if at least some of those traditions did not begin entirely with human imagination?

The Bold Possibility

Suppose, only for a moment, that Deuteronomy 32 preserves a memory of nations being placed beneath heavenly beings.

Suppose Daniel really does reveal spiritual powers associated with earthly empires.

Suppose Psalm 82 describes God judging divine beings who failed in their rule.

Then we may ask: Could some of the “gods” remembered by the ancient nations be distorted cultural memories of real spiritual beings?

Not necessarily exactly as mythology describes them.

Not necessarily under the names by which we know them today.

And certainly not as equals of the Creator.

But could memories have survived?

Could stories have changed?

Could names have changed as languages changed?

Could a spiritual ruler become a national god in human memory?

Could centuries of worship, storytelling, politics and imagination have transformed an ancient reality into mythology?

We do not know. But now the question exists.

Connection III — Daniel's Strange Clue

Daniel 10 may provide one of the most intriguing pieces.

Daniel is visited by a heavenly messenger. But the messenger says he was resisted for twenty-one days by: “the prince of the kingdom of Persia.”

Michael comes to assist him. Later the messenger warns: “the prince of Greece will come.”

Why would earthly empires have heavenly “princes”? A normal human prince could hardly detain an angelic messenger in spiritual conflict for twenty-one days.

Daniel therefore appears to pull back the curtain.

On Earth
  • Persia.
  • Greece.
  • Israel.
Behind The Curtain
  • The Prince of Persia.
  • The Prince of Greece.
  • Michael.

Two levels of history appear to overlap.

The visible world... and the unseen world.

What If Mythology Remembers The Unseen World?

Now return to Greece. The Greeks believed their gods intervened in wars, protected cities, opposed one another and influenced kings and heroes.

Return to Mesopotamia. Cities and kingdoms stood beneath patron deities.

Return to Egypt. Divine and royal authority were deeply intertwined.

Return to the northern traditions. Gods fought, made alliances, possessed knowledge, interacted with humanity and faced an eventual cosmic conflict.

Are these stories evidence that Deuteronomy 32 describes Zeus, Odin or Marduk? No.

Scripture never says: “Zeus was one of the sons of God.”

It never identifies Odin with a biblical heavenly prince.

It never tells us that Marduk was the spiritual ruler assigned to Babylon at Babel.

Making those identifications as fact would go beyond the evidence.

But another statement is possible:

The biblical worldview and the mythological worldviews of the nations contain intriguing structural similarities. That is worth investigating.

Connection IV — One Memory, Many Names?

There is another possibility. Humanity did not develop in complete isolation.

Peoples migrated. Empires conquered one another. Merchants travelled. Stories crossed borders. Religions borrowed from other religions. Gods were sometimes identified with foreign gods.

The Romans famously associated many of their gods with Greek counterparts:

Zeus
→ Jupiter
Athena
→ Minerva
Ares
→ Mars
Aphrodite
→ Venus

The names changed. Parts of the stories changed. But recognizable identities remained.

So we already know historically that: A divine figure could cross cultural boundaries and receive another name.

That does not prove that all gods descend from one original group. But it demonstrates how easily ancient religious memories could transform.

The Signature of the Divine: "-El"

A fascinating linguistic echo remains in ancient Semitic languages. The root word for God—and the name of the supreme Canaanite creator deity—was "El". In the biblical unseen realm, heavenly beings bear this exact signature in their names: Micha-el, Gabri-el, Uri-el, Rapha-el. The suffix literally means "of God" or "is God."

Even corrupted or fallen spiritual entities in ancient texts sometimes retain this suffix (like Azaz-el). It was the ancient world's undeniable linguistic marker of divinity. When the nations spread out, they carried this root word into their pantheons and sacred locations (like Beth-el, house of God, or Bab-el, gate of the gods).

Now add Babel to the question.

One humanity becomes many peoples. One language becomes many languages.

What happens to stories when people scatter?

Perhaps they disappear. Perhaps they are reinvented. Or perhaps fragments travel with them.

Three Possibilities

At this point we should separate what is possible from what is proven. There are at least three broad explanations.

Possibility One

Human Mythmaking

People created gods to explain: storms, death, fertility, war, the stars, the seasons, and the mysteries of existence. Similar human experiences produced similar mythologies. This explanation can account for many parallels.

Possibility Two

Cultural Memory

Ancient peoples inherited stories from earlier civilizations. Migration, conquest and trade carried those stories across the world. Over centuries: names changed, details changed, gods merged, stories grew. A very old tradition could therefore survive in forms almost unrecognizable from its beginning.

Possibility Three

A Spiritual Memory

And then there is the possibility suggested by placing the biblical worldview beside those traditions. Perhaps some myths contain memories — however distorted — of encounters with, beliefs about, or traditions concerning real spiritual beings.

If so, mythology would contain a mixture of: memory, religion, human imagination, cultural transformation, and perhaps spiritual reality.

This is the most speculative possibility.

But within the worldview presented by Deuteronomy 32, Psalm 82 and Daniel 10... it cannot simply be dismissed without examination.

Connection V — What Went Wrong?

Psalm 82 adds another disturbing piece.

God stands in the divine council. But He is not praising its members. He is judging them. They have ruled unjustly. They have shown partiality to the wicked. They have failed the weak and needy. Then God announces judgment.

And the Psalm ends:

“Arise, O God, judge the earth; for you shall inherit all the nations!”

This creates an extraordinary possibility for the biblical storyline.

If nations were placed beneath spiritual authorities... and some of those authorities became corrupt... then the gods worshipped among the nations might not represent God's intended order. They could represent its corruption.

Again: This is interpretation — not an explicit biblical statement about Zeus, Ra, Odin or any other named deity.

But Psalm 82 makes one thing clear: spiritual authority does not mean equality with God. And spiritual beings themselves can come under His judgment.

Connection VI — The War Was Never Between Equal Gods

This distinction is essential.

The biblical worldview is not: YHWH versus Zeus. Or: YHWH versus Baal. Or: YHWH versus the gods of Egypt.

As though heaven contained competing gods of equal rank.

Scripture presents something radically different.

  • There is one Creator.
  • Everything else exists because He created it.
  • Any spiritual powers are creatures.
  • Any authority they possess is subordinate.
  • Any rebellion remains beneath His sovereignty.
  • And any judgment belongs ultimately to Him.

That is why the Exodus can speak of judgment against the gods of Egypt. That is why Psalm 82 can portray God judging the gods. That is why Daniel's heavenly princes can struggle... without ever threatening God's throne.

Connection VII — The Nations Are Not Abandoned

And here the story takes an unexpected turn.

Immediately after Babel... God calls Abraham. And His promise is: “In you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

God chooses one family. Israel emerges. The Messiah comes through Israel.

But then Jesus does something remarkable. He sends His followers back to the nations.

“Go therefore and make disciples of all nations.”
— Matthew 28:19

The direction reverses.

At Babel: the nations go outward.

Through Abraham: God begins the road back.

Through Israel: the Messiah enters the world.

Through Christ: the message goes outward again — to every nation.

Connection VIII — Christ and the Powers

The New Testament describes Christ using language that becomes especially significant after everything we have seen.

He is exalted: “far above all rule and authority and power and dominion.” — Ephesians 1:21

Paul speaks of: rulers, authorities, powers, dominions, and spiritual forces.

And Colossians says that through the cross Christ: “disarmed the rulers and authorities.” — Colossians 2:15

The New Testament does not tell us to identify those powers with individual gods from mythology.

But it does confirm something central to the biblical worldview: The spiritual realm contains powers and authorities — and Christ stands above them all.

From Babel to the Kingdom

Now the entire Journey can be seen at once.

Babel Humanity rebels.
The Nations Humanity is scattered.
The Sons of God An ancient reading of Deuteronomy describes the nations being divided according to heavenly beings.
Israel Jacob becomes YHWH's portion.
The Powers Scripture reveals heavenly rulers and authorities.
The Corruption Psalm 82 portrays divine beings under judgment.
Abraham's Promise All families of the earth will be blessed.
Messiah Jesus Christ comes through Israel.
The Cross The rulers and authorities are defeated.
Pentecost Many languages hear one Gospel.
The Great Commission The disciples are sent to all nations.
The Kingdom People from: every nation, every tribe, every people, and every language stand before God.

Perhaps The Real Mystery Is Not The Gods

We began this Journey asking: Who were the gods of the nations? Were they imagination? Ancient memories? Spiritual beings? Corrupted traditions? Perhaps pieces of several things at once?

Scripture does not give us enough information to identify Zeus, Marduk, Ra, Odin or other ancient gods with specific heavenly beings.

So we leave that mystery where it belongs: open.

But Scripture does answer a much greater question: Who ultimately owns the nations?

Psalm 82 ends: “Arise, O God, judge the earth; for you shall inherit all the nations.”

Psalm 2 speaks of the Messiah receiving: “the nations” as His inheritance.

And Revelation ends with humanity no longer scattered away from God... but gathered before Him.

So perhaps the deepest pattern is not:

Babel → gods → mythology

It is:

Babel → Nations → Israel → Messiah → Nations Restored

The nations may have been scattered. Their languages divided. Their histories separated. Their gods given countless names. Their stories changed across thousands of years.

But according to the biblical story... God never forgot the nations.

And the final word does not belong to Babel. It does not belong to Persia. It does not belong to Greece. It does not belong to Rome. It does not belong to any earthly king... or any heavenly power.

The Final Word Belongs To The King.

Jesus Christ.

And before His throne stands:

“a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages.”
— Revelation 7:9

The nations were scattered.
But the story ends with the nations gathered.

Next Journey

Journey VIII — The Promise

From the scattered nations, God calls one man to begin the road back. Discover the covenant, the promise, and the beginning of Israel.

Proceed to Journey VIII